i already knew about the PTR delta sirens, i even saw one on sale on leboncoin : https://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/2378466517.htmDarley Champion wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:15 pmI don't know if that help, but one of my friends (who is unfortunately unreachable due to some "complications" that I won't get into further details) has a much later CICCA 1kW siren. According to the guy who my friend bought it from, this particular unit was installed in Paris and subsequently taken out of service.
It does not have any distinguishable features besides that like a Finsécur KMEurop (now KM-Sécur) it's upside down with the rotor opening being on the bottom, but unlike the KMEurops/KM-Secur units, the cage is smaller and the "core" is thicker.
About that 4-horned siren: I believe this may be a CHOLET siren, based on other sirens that I've seen in a group chat (I'm not at liberty of posting pictures, however). It's wholly unconfirmed but if I get more info I'll do my best to forward it.
The second Cicca siren, I've been negociating with the seller to potentially buy it, but I've yet to hear back anything from him/her (though due to the logistical nightmare that this will be, I'm probably not going to pursue this further).
By the way, add another brand to the list: PTR-Delta. Those generally have a small "hat" but without the octogonal or hexagonal crown armature that larger PTR sirens have. I don't have any info on these but a person I know has dug up something about this company being located in Lyon.
Edit: Scratch that. Those two sirens both appear to be late CHOLET sirens sold under Cicca's umbrella.
The second one at least sounds like what a Federal Electric Model 1 would sound on 50Hz.
Edit 2: There's a connection between Cicca and Cholet (Chollet?) that I dug up last year... Unfortunately I can no longer find any of the pages I had saved.. But I found this: https://archives.cholet.fr/regards-sur- ... -de-cholet
for the CEN siren, is it the same as in Régusse (once again i dont live there, but im gonna film it this month) ? the one in Régusse looks like this : https://www.google.fr/maps/@43.6563143, ... ?entry=ttu anyways, that Cinqueux siren really looks like a PTR with short horns but im not sure... also i found it on street view : https://www.google.fr/maps/@49.319285,2 ... ?entry=ttu, apart from that, i have another weird one, that being the siren in Entrecasteaux (also gonna film it this month but i dont live there), weirdly, it tests on fridays instead of wednesdays, still tests at noon tho. anyways i am going to buy Demay R3P siren soon but apart from that, i found a SO4 for youDarley Champion wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:10 pmAlso, you won't find much about Chollet, I tried, and did find a page, but it was hosted on the Orange pages perso service that was... Nuked out of existence..
Probably not what you'd wanted to hear but alas...
I'm myself trying to buy a Klaxon SO-4 siren, due to you know, space constraints (not to mention, my bad back and truckload of muscular issues basically prevents me from even trying to lift anything heavy).. I wish I could obtain the Champagne-sur-Oise siren that sits on the site of the former EDF Coal-fired power plant... But even if I could, my body would just "nope" out of that, full stop. I struggled to lift my friend's CICCA siren (barely could get it off the ground).. Maybe someday, I'd do the impossible and import a Federal Signal Model 2-240, sky's the limit after all!
There's also Ully-saint-Georges that has a CEN siren, but without horns and a smaller motor, and Cinqueux that has an as of yet unidentified siren, I believe Julien may have told me that it was a PTR but to me I don't think it is. I've seen it from a distance and could see that it had a "crown" but it was perfectly circular with spikes on the posts.. Ninja edit: Looked on StreetView, I think I may have confused the "crown" with the antennas around the siren! (though it does look like the old Verneuil siren.. But with longer horns)
It did look like the later Cicca siren that my friend had with just an armature bolted on top.
about those, sadly i dont live near them. i live in the PACA region of France close to Brignoles (i dont live there tho, but as i said earlier i used to live in Barjols), atleast there are some weird sirens close to me. one of these being the Entrecasteaux siren that tests on fridays instead of wednesdays. i have absolutely no clue why and it only does a short blast. its on top of the city hall and is definitely a CEN siren. i also recorded it today, here is the video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gclXctaRuxw apart from that tho, the other most intresting siren next to me is as i said the one in Régusse that does not have the standard port ration and has missing horns, its definitely weird and looks like this : https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Mairie ... ?entry=ttu and finally there is a very weird 4 horn one up in Videauban that im gonna film for the first wednesday of april, what about march's first wednesday ? thats right, im gonna film the Régusse one. and thats kind of all i have to say. so now you know.Darley Champion wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:33 amYeh, the Ully siren is indeed the same, minus the horns, it's looks almost like a smaller KMEurop, sans the horns, mounted on a metallic truss that hangs off the city hall's facade. Pretty unique mount if you ask me.
Re: the So4 - Nice find! I sent the seller a message, here's hoping he's willing to ship, if not, I'll bite the bullet and import one from the UK.
If you want a couple of other sirens, there's two or three I found.
The first one is in the old Collège in Clermont-de-l'Oise (I took a picture of it on this board), I couldn't identify what model it is, but it's huge and looks very recent.
Second and third ones are in Nogent-sur-Oise, the first one is atop a tall building (near the city hall), the other is on a private property and isn't visible, I have a very poor picture of it but it sure looks like a Chollet/early Cicca. (or it could be an air vent)
There's another one in Chambly behind the city hall, couldn't identify that one as well, as far as I know, both Clermont and Chambly sirens are dormant.
The Nogent 1 siren is active (and still tests!) but the second one is seemingly disconnected, or maybe as I said it's maybe not a siren at all.
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