On a day that I christen national 4J25 day, I filmed this 1004 with TrainsandSirens1. This to my understanding is the first video of this particular siren.
National 4J25 day... why would that be? Oh, well, i'll start playing the 10 hour WS-1004 loop..
Does that one have bad drivers or something??
Re: Covington, GA Whelen 1004 test 4/25/18
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:41 pm
by uncommonsense
I'm not sure that's actually a Whelen. The speaker variety doesn't look right and the tone isn't correct. I've heard a WS-1000. There was a video of one during a news segment that was on YouTube where the residents were complaining it was too quiet. It sounded like an early 2000/3000, not like what was in this video. This siren reminds me of a Loudon siren.
Of course I can't find that segment when I need it! Maybe someone else knows what I am talking about and can post it to this thread.
Re: Covington, GA Whelen 1004 test 4/25/18
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:45 pm
by nvanw27
that may either be a very early Loudoun, or a WS retrofitted with Loudoun controllers.
Re: Covington, GA Whelen 1004 test 4/25/18
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:19 pm
by uncommonsense
Here we go. Here's the video I was talking about that has footage of a proper WS-1000 sounding.
Based on the extent literature this is the only configuration these 1000s came in.
What we have here is not a Whelen.
Or what we have was a Whelen. PeachtreeSirens also filmed another one of these in Covington which looked very 1004 like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiflsz18JLA&t=19s Stupid youtube won't upload this time.
It sounds the same, also sounds the same as Ian's MasterBlaster making me think it's a retrofit. There's also a picture of an abandoned Whelen WS-1004 in Smyrna next to a WPS 4004 [for speaker comparison] which I saw recently which has the same controller minus the extra array seen on the news clip.
It sounds the same, also sounds the same as Ian's MasterBlaster making me think it's a retrofit. There's also a picture of an abandoned Whelen WS-1004 in Smyrna next to a WPS 4004 [for speaker comparison] which I saw recently which has the same controller minus the extra array seen on the news clip.
While looking further into this, I believe it's a WS-1004 on a Loudoun controller. The fact that these things are outrageously high-pitched makes me believe even more it's on a Loudoun.
Further proving the theory, I haven't seen or heard of a Whelen Analogue controller that can go that high. Unless this was one of the really really really obscure controllers that was one of Whelen's first, all evidence points to Loudoun.
Based on the extent literature this is the only configuration these 1000s came in.
What we have here is not a Whelen.
Yes, you are correct about Winona Lake’s Whelen WS-1008. It is an original installation from the 1970’s. I used to live about 10 minutes away from there, prior to 2015 when I moved to Northeastern Ohio. What I can tell you is that looking at street view and knowing about it up till I moved, they never acquired funding to fix this siren or replace it with the “4 new sirens” described in the news clip. There simply wasn’t enough money available and Kosciusko County EMA did not fund a grant for it. The City of Warsaw (which borders Winona Lake) had 3 sirens for the 12 years I lived there (from 2004-2015), but now they have 4 apparently (this is just from what I’ve heard; I’ve never went back so I can’t say for sure). As far as this 1008 goes, it is still up, and as far as I know, very likely still broken, if it even works at all anymore. But judging by the clip; I’d have to assume that this 1004 mentioned is very likely on a Loudoun controller.
Re: Covington, GA Whelen 1004 test 4/25/18
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:48 pm
by Brendan W
I always called it a 1004 because that's what I was told it was many years ago by I think Ian. Now that you gentlemen have brought this forth and to my attention, I am genuinely confused as to what it is.
Re: Covington, GA Whelen 1004 test 4/25/18
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:13 pm
by nvanw27
Time to check on some of those old Whelen product sheets.......