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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:36 pm

lkreykes wrote:Just a personal opinion I suppose, it just seems like every year we get crazy weather that has always ended up in property damages and tons of fallen trees. That weather might not include a tornado, but nevertheless it is property and life threatening and to me that speaks for itself. The last tornado (2007) was three miles from my house and killed my neighbor, and many other neighbors had their houses smashed by falling trees. However I do realize that there's other alternatives to sirens like the CodeRed app for phones and other mobile alerts, I just think sirens are more fun. ;)

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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:45 pm

Trees are natural missiles, and many people forget that yes there may be no tornado, but serve storms can cause horrendous destruction and loss of life.

Tornado sirens are far move effective than modern electronic methods, although in a location like Northen Michigan where a majority of the population live in rural areas, the usage of sirens can be difficult.

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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:08 pm

AST128_RyanK wrote:Trees are natural missiles, and many people forget that yes there may be no tornado, but serve storms can cause horrendous destruction and loss of life.

Tornado sirens are far move effective than modern electronic methods, although in a location like Northen Michigan where a majority of the population live in rural areas, the usage of sirens can be difficult.
That's very true. Most of Kalkaska itself is centered one one big, flat area. There wouldn't be much of a problem there however the rest of the county would be an issue because as you leave town, tree growth becomes thick and people are sporadically spaced apart. I'm just having a moment of "wishful thinking" I guess.
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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:47 pm

lkreykes wrote:
AST128_RyanK wrote:Trees are natural missiles, and many people forget that yes there may be no tornado, but serve storms can cause horrendous destruction and loss of life.

Tornado sirens are far move effective than modern electronic methods, although in a location like Northen Michigan where a majority of the population live in rural areas, the usage of sirens can be difficult.
That's very true. Most of Kalkaska itself is centered one one big, flat area. There wouldn't be much of a problem there however the rest of the county would be an issue because as you leave town, tree growth becomes thick and people are sporadically spaced apart. I'm just having a moment of "wishful thinking" I guess.
Luke, sirens might sound cool on test days, but they are the last thing you want to hear when there is a sign of imminent danger. I would MUCH rather live in Kalkaska county where nothing much happens than live near a chemical or nuke plant like Dow, Cook, Palisades, or Fermi (Fermi had a partial meltdown back in '66). Or live in the Plains States. I've got family near OKC (originally from MI) that have to put up with a lot more weather-related destruction than we do here in Michigan. I'm sure there are plenty of users here on this forum that have seen devastation the likes of which Kalkaska has never experienced. You don't know how lucky you are. Aside from that, if you ever acquire a siren of your own, there is probably enough remoteness in the Kalkaska area to fire it up without any noise complaints (I'm sure the animals in the forest won't complain! ;) ).

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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:38 am

goldfinch wrote:
lkreykes wrote:
AST128_RyanK wrote:Trees are natural missiles, and many people forget that yes there may be no tornado, but serve storms can cause horrendous destruction and loss of life.

Tornado sirens are far move effective than modern electronic methods, although in a location like Northen Michigan where a majority of the population live in rural areas, the usage of sirens can be difficult.
That's very true. Most of Kalkaska itself is centered one one big, flat area. There wouldn't be much of a problem there however the rest of the county would be an issue because as you leave town, tree growth becomes thick and people are sporadically spaced apart. I'm just having a moment of "wishful thinking" I guess.
Luke, sirens might sound cool on test days, but they are the last thing you want to hear when there is a sign of imminent danger. I would MUCH rather live in Kalkaska county where nothing much happens than live near a chemical or nuke plant like Dow, Cook, Palisades, or Fermi (Fermi had a partial meltdown back in '66). Or live in the Plains States. I've got family near OKC (originally from MI) that have to put up with a lot more weather-related destruction than we do here in Michigan. I'm sure there are plenty of users here on this forum that have seen devastation the likes of which Kalkaska has never experienced. You don't know how lucky you are. Aside from that, if you ever acquire a siren of your own, there is probably enough remoteness in the Kalkaska area to fire it up without any noise complaints (I'm sure the animals in the forest won't complain! ;) ).
Yeah having Dow right next door is not something to take lightly; it's the 3rd largest chemical company in the world and has a deadly history. For example, it produced agent orange for Vietnam.

To make things worse Dow owns its own nuclear reactor and a nuclear plant was going to be built back during the the Cold War but luckily that was stopped.

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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:55 am

The proposed Dow reactors were never put into service though. One of the reactor heads was actually given to Davis-Besse in Ohio since they're the same brand reactors and the Dow reactor head was still practically brand new. How ironic; two of my favorite interests on one website. Sirens and nuclear energy.
I never said other places don't get worse weather than where my house is, I just was trying to get to the point that some places that don't have sirens might benefit from having them.
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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:52 am

lkreykes wrote:The proposed Dow reactors were never put into service though. One of the reactor heads was actually given to Davis-Besse in Ohio since they're the same brand reactors and the Dow reactor head was still practically brand new. How ironic; two of my favorite interests on one website. Sirens and nuclear energy.
I never said other places don't get worse weather than where my house is, I just was trying to get to the point that some places that don't have sirens might benefit from having them.
Yeah the plant was never constructed, a operation nuclear reactor does exist at Dow, it may not be widely known but it is but along the lines of local knowledge.

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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:07 am

Oh wow I did not know that. Is it primarily for research? What is its purpose?
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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:41 pm

lkreykes wrote:Oh wow I did not know that. Is it primarily for research? What is its purpose?
Yeah primarily used for research, although you never know. I wouldn't be surprised if it was powering the complex. One reactor has a lot of power to it.

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Re: Does the Upper Peninsula have sirens?

Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:05 am

AST128_RyanK wrote:
lkreykes wrote:The proposed Dow reactors were never put into service though. One of the reactor heads was actually given to Davis-Besse in Ohio since they're the same brand reactors and the Dow reactor head was still practically brand new. How ironic; two of my favorite interests on one website. Sirens and nuclear energy.
I never said other places don't get worse weather than where my house is, I just was trying to get to the point that some places that don't have sirens might benefit from having them.
Yeah the plant was never constructed, a operation nuclear reactor does exist at Dow, it may not be widely known but it is but along the lines of local knowledge.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a TRIGA reactor?

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