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Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:02 am

pyramid head wrote:What was the point in having two of the same port count? like 16/16 and 8/8? Does anybody have a recording of a Sterling? ~please do not direct me to youtube! :)
Here's a recording on a dual tone (8/16) M10 from The Siren Archive

http://www.jmarcoz.com/sirens/mtroyal_nj.wma

Does anyone know how to distinguish an M5 from an M10? I figured the M5 might have a longer wind up. Physically, they look identical.

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Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:53 am

Thanks for the sound clip! :D
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Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:29 am

pyramid head wrote:Was there a low tone model of the Sterling "M" ever made? I know the regular ones have a very stupidly high tone to them. What is the port ratio on M's?
In my area, the old Irish Hills Fire Dept., had a Sterling M10 that was custom built with with 8/8 rotors. They decided to go with this configuration, since the area they served was very hilly, and the sound carried much better over given the geographical terrain. Conversely, Canton Township had a Sterling M10, with a 16/16 for fire alerting. This was done, since the other Sterling M10s had the standard 8/16 port ratio, which were used for Civil Defense/Severe Weather alerting.

The fire station Sterling with the 16/16 ratio, sounded very creepy when it went off for its 2-4 minute fire cycle. Sadly, that siren went to scrap a decade after the 1003 Thunderbolts were installed. Had I of known the fire chief back then, he said I could had the siren for free. :roll:

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Jim_Ferer wrote:Unless the wire covering is coming off, just leave it. If you have to remove the wires, put them in something for the hazwaste. I can't tell you how to tell asbestos insulation; I usually know it when I see it, but there's no way to describe it. The two wires on the right in the photo have asbestos insulation.
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Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:28 pm

The problem with Sterling's 8/16 dual tone is that it does not sound much like a dual tone compared with other sirens. Many people have a hard time distinguishing between the octave interval and the overtones of a single-tone siren, whereas with a non-octave siren like a 2T22 or an SD-10, it is much easier to hear the difference. If a community was using a single tone siren for one thing and a dual tone for another, using a Sterling/Sentry octave siren for the dual tone is not recommended.
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Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:06 pm

Yes.
I always wondered why 8/16?
Would it not sound as one tone, just as a 8', 4' and 2' organ stops blend creating a single bright tone?
When I first saw and heard a pipe organ, I wondered how the pipes produced such wonderful "shiny" sounds.
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Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:25 pm

I noticed vent looking things on some of the Sterlings, as well as the "wings" off of the air intakes. were these things factory options?
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I don't really have a hard time distinguishing the two tones!

Though the tones sound similar, one carries farther, while the other one is more noticeable.
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SirenMadness wrote:I don't really have a hard time distinguishing the two tones!

Though the tones sound similar, one carries farther, while the other one is more noticeable.
I think that this is Sentry's philosophy -- the low tone for distance and the high tone for penetration. I've never heard a dual-tone Sentry or Sterling in person, but from several miles away, a dual-headed 8-port Darley is more audible than a dual-headed 16-port Sterling of comparable size. However, the overtones or resultant pitches from sirens with minor 3rd, perfect 4th, or perfect 5th intervals give an equally-broad pitch range for distance and penetration. Also, these are more recognizable by outsiders as a warning signal, particularly the minor 3rd (2T22).
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I have a re-newed interest in Sterling's, so my question is about the intake cones. I have noticed "wings" and vent looking thing's off of the intake cones on different M's, and I was wondering if these were a factory option, and if they had a purpose.
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