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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Tue May 16, 2017 11:45 pm

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Tue May 16, 2017 6:30 pm
Well... depending on the EMA. For whatever reason, if something "breaks down" some people would rather just scrap the entire "old" lineup because well... they're old... that single tone bolt in HI had a blower and rotator failure ( I think mister murr said it was because of the delay relay) and they put a "vastly inferior" (mister murrs quote that I agree to) new modulator (I think) up. EDIT: also reading the OP, I wanted to say that just because other size blowers have made the siren louder, that doesn't mean that the 4M still isn't pretty stinking loud...
The Hancock County EMA is actually in the process of doing a minor upgrade to their system. Basically they are installing 22 new sirens to replace sirens that are completely dead or for additional coverage. As far as I know, the sirens that just need minor repairs are being fixed, not replaced, meaning that this siren will probably be around for at least a couple more years
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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Tue May 16, 2017 11:53 pm

Greenfield1003 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 11:37 pm
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Tue May 16, 2017 5:42 am
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Mon May 15, 2017 4:51 pm

If that's the case, then what would the best option be?
Either find another gear reducer to put on it, replace the rotator unit entirely, or replace the entire siren. From an EMA standpoint, more than likely if it is the gear reducer, they would just replace it.
Would you mind specifying "it" for me? Is "it" the gear reducer, rotator, or entire siren?
"It" is the problem and I mean if the problem is the gear reducer, they would just replace it.
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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Wed May 17, 2017 1:17 pm

Tyler wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 11:53 pm
Greenfield1003 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 11:37 pm
Tyler wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 5:42 am


Either find another gear reducer to put on it, replace the rotator unit entirely, or replace the entire siren. From an EMA standpoint, more than likely if it is the gear reducer, they would just replace it.
Would you mind specifying "it" for me? Is "it" the gear reducer, rotator, or entire siren?
"It" is the problem and I mean if the problem is the gear reducer, they would just replace it.
So you're saying that they'd replace the gear reducer, not the whole siren, right?
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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Wed May 17, 2017 1:26 pm

Greenfield1003 wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 1:17 pm
Tyler wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 11:53 pm
Greenfield1003 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 11:37 pm

Would you mind specifying "it" for me? Is "it" the gear reducer, rotator, or entire siren?
"It" is the problem and I mean if the problem is the gear reducer, they would just replace it.
So you're saying that they'd replace the gear reducer, not the whole siren, right?
The entire unit.
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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Wed May 17, 2017 1:29 pm

Tyler wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 1:26 pm
Greenfield1003 wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 1:17 pm
Tyler wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 11:53 pm


"It" is the problem and I mean if the problem is the gear reducer, they would just replace it.
So you're saying that they'd replace the gear reducer, not the whole siren, right?
The entire unit.
Not to sound like a "kiddie" but if they replace my favorite siren....
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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Wed May 17, 2017 6:12 pm

Call them and try to get it... but don't like bug them. Call once, follow up reasonably if you don't hear from them after a while (like 2 weeks to 2 months even.) but just note they are a bit heavy...
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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Wed May 17, 2017 9:25 pm

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Call them and try to get it... but don't like bug them. Call once, follow up reasonably if you don't hear from them after a while (like 2 weeks to 2 months even.) but just note they are a bit heavy...
I'm not going to try and buy it for 3 reasons
1.) Even if I could somehow afford the setup I'd still need access to 3 phase power to be able to set it off
2.) I live in the suburbs of Indianapolis. No way is my EMA director going to let me own and set off a large siren

Do you think I could some how convince the EMA not to scrap it and instead use it as backup or else give it to WSS?

Also I thought I'd like to add that we don't know their initial plans as to whether or not they are replacing, nor do we know if the gear reducer is actually the issue here. I think it'd be best to wait and see before we try and figure out what to do with this siren
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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Thu May 18, 2017 3:25 am

A: if you just want to run the chopper no you don't need 3ph power B: don't set it off with the blower. C: you could ask the EMA director those questions... but no guarantees.
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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Thu May 18, 2017 1:53 pm

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A: if you just want to run the chopper no you don't need 3ph power B: don't set it off with the blower. C: you could ask the EMA director those questions... but no guarantees.
I have no interest in owning a large, personal siren in till I'm on my own and live in a rural area. I would be happy to have someone else purchase it and keep it in tact in till I am ready to own it
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Re: What kind of blower does this Thunderbolt use?

Sat May 20, 2017 3:52 pm

Greenfield1003 wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 1:29 pm
Tyler wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 1:26 pm
Greenfield1003 wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 1:17 pm

So you're saying that they'd replace the gear reducer, not the whole siren, right?
The entire unit.
Not to sound like a "kiddie" but if they replace my favorite siren....
I talked with the Deputy Director and he said that they are trying to keep as many sirens as they possibly can in order to save money, so this siren might actually get fixed and not replaced since I'm sure a new gear reducer is a heck of a lot cheaper than uninstalling and installing a brand new siren
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